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How Good Game Differs from Getting Lucky

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By: Chase Amante

good game vs. hoping to get luckySpam approachers – guys who go out to ‘shoot their shot’ and ‘get lucky’ – have a very different approach from guys with good, serious game. But what’s the difference?

One of our forum members, Spyce D, mentioned several acquaintances of his whose success comes off the back of what we’d call ‘spam approaching’:

Question : What do you think is more important in daygame - Numbers game or skill ?

I know a few folks who have been going out for years but they still have to do lot approaches , spam approaches (10+ / hour) and then they would get results , if they do.

No doubt , They are getting results but they are also doing ton of approaches a day that too 4-5 times per week + supplementing with nightgame and online .

And there are folks who played the numbers game but couldn't get any results and then left daygame for years only to return after they took coaching .

Hence the question .

Now, when you’re chatting up 10+ girls/hour, in particular during day game, then yes, that is spam approaching. An experienced seducer who is out to approach until he picks up may make 4 to 6 approaches an hour in day game, assuming he is having a few substantial interactions in there, and also not approaching every single woman he sees (i.e., that he is not spam approaching). That’s about the maximum.

A more ordinary man who is out trying to approach during the day (or a skilled seducer who is not gunning hard for a same day lay) will likely make 1 or 2 approaches per hour.

Let’s have a look real quick at what the difference is between guys who get lucky through sheer volume, versus guys who use good game to get success with women.

Lay Report: Girl Offers “5 Date System” (LOL)

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By: Skilled Seducer

lay report: 5-date systemIn this report by NarrowJ, a girl met out shopping offers her “5 Date System.” But can NarrowJ lay her in just a fraction of that time? He can & does!

This report was originally posted by NarrowJ on the forum here.

Around 3 PM yesterday I saw a super hot looking little brunette trying on shoes in Macy’s. Walked over and hovered a bit by a rack of sunglasses, pretending to browse them until I could tell she was almost done with the shoes.

I catch her looking at me a couple times.

The first time she turned away quickly, the second time she smiled shyly and looked down. I don’t even walk over to her, I'm about 15 feet away from her and turn in her direction and say "Hey there" and she looks in my direction like she doesn’t know who just said it, and once she realizes it was me I say with a smile: "Come here when you're done over there."

She nods and smiles, hurries up and finishes what she’s doing and walks over.

Sex Talk Tonality: How to Use Your Voice During Sex Talk

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By: Alek Rolstad

sex talk tonalityWhat voice tone should you use when you talk to women about sex? Guys often get it wrong, talking too excited – but you’ll usually want normal tonality, not eager.

Hi everyone, and welcome back.

Those of you who read this blog know that my signature technique is sex talk. Talking about sex is a safe and rejection-free way to set a sexual frame. This helps convey that you are a safe and good lover (sexual prizing).

The idea is NOT to be direct and “say what you want to do to her,” as many imagine when hearing the term “sex talk,” but rather to talk about sexuality and related topics as any other subject to make the interaction about sex (set a sexual frame). The girl you are talking with will realize that you know what you are doing in bed without explicitly showing any particular interest in her, as this can trigger resistance and perhaps even a rejection (it becomes too much too quick for her).

I have discussed this in-depth at in “Sleazy Sexy Talk vs. Sexy Sex Talk: What’s the Difference?”

You may also check out my forum post, which compiles all the sex talk articles and more. These include every theoretical post about sex talk, how to talk about sex in a safe and non-creepy way, calibrating sex talk, how to transition into it, as well as many different gambits and examples.

I have not yet written a post on voice tonality and sex talk. Better late than never; here it is!

How Long Do Most Guys Keep at Pickup?

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By: Chase Amante

how long do men stay in the game?Lots of guys get into pick up artistry imagining they’ll sleep with tons of women. Most drop out before that point. How long does the average guy stay in?

Picking up girls, like anything new, exciting, yet challenging that people embark on, drops practitioners steadily along the way as you go.

Most folks are aware that most guys who try pickup soon give up. Fewer stick with it. Fewer still stay with it long enough to become good.

But where’s the point where most guys drop out?

Where are the OTHER points along the way that bleed guys from the art of seduction?

Chase's Guide to Ironclad Mental Health

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By: Chase Amante

Chase's Guide to Ironclad Mental HealthA complete guide to unshakeable mental health. Never be depressed again. Escape victim mentality forever. Use RAISE. Plus: see how the ancients did it.

Commenting on a recent article of mine, Robert Kendall asked:

I realise it's a little bit topical at the moment and has been for a few years, and you've also got a few articles not to dissimilar to this one, but could you do something on mental health. Not necessarily seek professional advice etc, and your media control article covers a lot, but something on how to keep and maintain just general rock solid mental health, tips that maybe you use when things get rough practical advice etc.

Obviously not in the sense that your article would be a substitute for professional advice, but often you like to delve into how far back in history mental health has been 'a thing' for, what the Egyptians did for it, or the Romans did to help with theirs etc. Just think it'd make for a great article.

Hmm… an overview of ancient beliefs and practices on mental health. Then my own guide to keeping your mind rock-solid.

Well, that’s kind of an eclectic ask, but… yeah what the heck!

I think this’d be a fun topic to go into, so, sure… I’m happy to write it.

If you’re new here and you’re wondering what my bona fides are to be writing about mental health, I suggest you read my article on overcoming depression and the many enthusiastic comment replies to that. You may also want to check out my articles on bitterness, victim mentality, and frame control. (if you prefer to hear from someone with academic credentials, you might want to head to Psychology Today)

I’m going to begin with an overview of ancient beliefs and practices around mental health, as per Robert’s request – and then I’ll go into my own strategy for keeping your mentality upwards-focused regardless what setbacks or stressors roil your life or try weighing you down.

Night Game Blueprint, Part 1: The Realities of Seduction

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By: Skilled Seducer

night game realitiesGet a grounded perspective on the realities of nightlife seduction. Do looks matter? Can you get any girl? Is it resistance or rejection? And more…

This post by Warped Mindless originally appeared on the forum here.

I originally wrote this guide way back at the beginning of 2011. Truth is, back then I wasn't much of a writer (I'm still not as good as I would like but I'm ever improving!) and because of that I apologize.

I'm posting this the way it was originally written so with that in mind, read on and I hope you learn something from it. I had originally intended to turn this into a free ebook but I made it into a very long article instead

Some of my views have changed sense writing this back in 2011 but overall this is a good beginner friendly method that worked great for me and works well for my students.

I'll make a post within the week that covers a condensed version of my current seduction method.

Sex Talk Gambit: Female Submission

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By: Alek Rolstad

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Today, I’ll discuss a gambit I love: the female submission gambit. I have been using this a lot lately and it is part of my current stack.

This gambit was originally from a 2019 forum post. See Sex Talk: The Submission Gambit.

I’d like to make this information available to a broader audience. I have successfully used this gambit, so I wrote a blog post about it. I'll include more details, comments, and analysis, then thoroughly explain the female submission gambit because it deserves it. Even better, this gambit is highly relevant today.

The Player Paradox: Why You Get Worse with Girls as You Get Better

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By: Hector Castillo

TEXTOnce you reach a certain level with women, you encounter a new snag: girls like you, but are skeptical of you. To move past this, you’ll need to shed the mantle of “The Player.”

As you become more experienced with women, you will see better results.

More girls give you approach invitations, and they enjoy your approaches. They give you their number and go on a date with you. They sleep with you quickly. And it’s a great feeling when you level up. But it’s not all harems and orgasms. There will be a time that you hit a wall.

You’ll start to see some odd things happen:

  • Girls will give you signals and flirt, but then they’ll disappear once you begin the seduction and even after you believe you hit the hook point.

  • She won’t respond to your first text, even though she was all over you when you first met.

  • She will respond to your texts but is elusive when you try to set up a date. Although she responds with warmth and affection in her text, she always seems too busy to meet.

  • The girls you go on dates with will be flirty but on-guard. You might make out with her, but when you try to get her home, it feels like you are trying to sell oil to a Saudi prince.

  • Girls will react well, or you receive cold and bitchy responses. You experience very polarizing reactions.

These strange, counterintuitive results will pile up, and your confidence may plummet. You might begin to slide backward and have less success than when you were less experienced.

Girls will start to reject you outright. Then, your results will nosedive. You might get occasional successes, but you’ve hit a slump.

What’s going on? You’re better than that! You’re the man.

Well, if you really were the man, you’d know what’s going on and fix this problem (or never have it in the first place). You have some work to do if you want to get better. So, what’s the issue?

You’ve stumbled upon The Player Paradox (I need to trademark and copyright this phrase because it’s genius).

Meeting a Girl in a Romantic Way (7 Steps)

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By: Chase Amante

meet her in a romantic wayEvery girl dreams to meet a man romantically. If you can meet a girl in a romantic way, not only can you sweep her off her feet – but you raise the odds you get her, too.

Whenever I’ve told women I wasn’t dating how I met girls I was dating, the response from my female listeners is always the same: “Wow, that’s SO romantic!”

Women love how I meet women. Girls I’m with love it, and girls just listening love it. There’s always an element of fate, chance… magic. There is always a way to say, “If I hadn’t gone there that day, if you hadn’t gone here, if this thing that happened had not happened, we never would have been.”

You might think it has to do with meeting girls in romantic places. Or putting together an approach that looks like a Hollywood meet-cute.

In fact, you can meet girls romantically anywhere you see them, and without following a Hollywood script.

In this guide, I’m going to break the process down for you and let you in on the secrets to meeting a girl in a romantic way.

For the sake of simplicity, I’ve broken the process down into seven (7) easy to execute (well, more or less) steps.

Let’s make some romantic meetings!