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Wingman Guide, Pt. 4: Closing Girls w/ a Wing (Doubles)

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By: Alek Rolstad

closing with a wingmanIt’s time to pull the girls you picked up with a wingman. Follow these battle-tested action plans to get girls out of the venue and alone & back home.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Previously, we have discussed wingmanning rules and strategies suitable for going solo and doing doubles, like split-pushes. This strategy is challenging and may not be ideal for beginners. We’ve also talked about the basics of wingmanning, from opening and hooking with a wingman, plus introducing your wing into the set, to running the set together.

If all goes well and the set is ready to pull, you must know how to manage this successfully. Sometimes, you and your wing may split up with each girl, going your separate ways. When this happens, it becomes a split-push, similar to solo game, which we won’t discuss today.

But often, when you have a set with your wing, you’ll want to take advantage of the double situation. Likely, the girls want to stick together, at least for a while, and you will most usually pull together.

How do you best seal the deal in these double situations? That’s what we will discuss below. You’ll learn how to handle those times when you and your wing are together with your girls until you are all at an afterparty. Sure, you may split up before then, and that’s completely fine. We will assume this does not happen so I can break down everything from meeting (see my last post) until she is in your bed (today’s post).
So, let’s assume:

  • You’ve opened the girls.

  • You and your wing have hooked both girls.

  • You both have an interaction going, and all is going well.

Undersexed Women, Girlfriends Cause Heaps of Drama

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By: Chase Amante

undersexed women cause heaps of dramaWhen women are fertile and sexually frustrated, they cause drama. How you avoid this drama is straightforward: sex her mind out when she ovulates.

I can’t believe I haven’t written an article on this before, but it just came to mind I haven’t. When women aren’t getting sexed enough, they cause mountains of drama.

This is an incontrovertible law of female nature. If you haven’t learned this rule, you may find drama exploding from women out of seemingly nowhere. One day she’s affectionate and horny… then the next day she’s an erupting volcano of malevolent fury. What happened?

You’ll get a dozen different explanations, blames, and excuses from her about what precipitated the drama. But the real source of drama if you trace it back is this: either you didn’t lay her at all, or you didn’t lay her well enough.

How to Want a Girl Less Than She Wants You

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By: Chase Amante

how to want a girl less than she wants youIf you’re the one who approaches a girl, how can you want a girl less than she wants you? It seems like a conundrum… yet many guys do it every day.

Beneath my article about Instagram dating’s uncomfortable truths, reader Sub-Zero asked the following:

Could you clarify things for me when it comes to wanting the woman less than she wants you when you’re the one approaching her and asking her out?

I never could quite understand this, and I’ve read your desireless article a few times, but it still isn’t working for me.

How do we want the woman less than she wants us when she isn’t putting that much effort in, and we’re the ones that are pursuing her?

It’s a simple question but it has a lot of merit! How can you want a girl less than she wants you, when YOU are the one making the approach? Are you just kidding yourself? How can this be?

At the beginning, you may indeed need to ‘kid yourself’ to a degree – though there are ways to do this more effectively. In the end, though, you will arrive at a place where you are able to approach yet truly want the women you approach less than they want you (assuming, that is, that they are interested!).

So, below, let’s talk about how to want a girl less than she wants you.

Wingman Guide, Pt. 3: Opening & Hooking Girls w/ a Wing

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By: Alek Rolstad

opening with a wingmanOpening girls with a wingman (and hooking them) is an art. With this guide, you’ll have the most effective ways to get them roped in and talking.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Previously, we discussed easy-to-pull-off wingman strategies: “split-push,” when you and your wing split and do your thing, not requiring wingmanning techniques like calibration and synergy with your wing. Doing “doubles” when you and your wing actively seek to meet women together, run the same set, and go for one girl from the same group is much harder to pull off than the split-push strategy. We also went over hybrid approaches that use split-push as a starting point, with the possibility of doing doubles later.

In some situations, you need to do a double:

  • Two-sets (hard to deal with solo, especially with isolation)

  • Sets when both you and your wing get a hook

  • Sets where you need assistance (only if your wing is skilled)

Some guys, like me, love doing doubles with a great wing. You get a special ego boost when you and a wing pull your own girl together. The vibe, the talks, and the laughs the next day are priceless. You must experience it to know it.

Today, I will go through basic techniques to use when doing doubles, whether you end up in a hybrid style by chance or actively go for it with your wing. These techniques can increase your chance of succeeding. Note that today’s post serves as a basic guide. I will get into more advanced strategies in a few weeks for more seasoned seducers (or curious beginners).

Girls' Dates & Exes Are Never as Perfect as You Imagine

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By: Chase Amante

girls dates are not perfectGirls will giddily talk up the guys they are (or were) going out with. Yet the actual man is never quite as impressive as the picture girls paint…

Several weeks ago a reader named Jason H. asked the following on my article about the reasons for there being so many single people:

Have you any advise in seeing things from the women's POV and feeling how women feel attracted differently from us men?

I've been reading Girlschase long enough to know that women and men at a GUT level are attracted to and prioritize different things.

The men part I GET at a deep gut/intuitive level when I read the articles. "I'm like yeah that makes sense!". Of course we prioritise youth and beauty. But I experience a cognitive dissonance to some extent when I read about what women prioritise with sexual attraction - because I don't FEEL the same way they do about dominance, humor, confidence & competence. These things don't turn me on at a gut level.

So I'm fighting the part of me that feels women prioritise - looks, height,muscles at low body fat or popularity. Dating apps (I'm not on it) but of men who are on it are competing with the only factor that's assessed on it -looks. So when I hear a female friend say I matched with a 6ft4 guy who is into martial arts he sounds like fun - it irritates me because I'm like well 'I'm pretty sure they value these other traits more' but they match a good looking guy or very tall guy and they are excited to meet him.

I want to be attractive enough so that women feel this same way more instantly. I've had good success by improving fundamentals and bedding women. The difference is it takes me longer to flip attraction triggers. I want it happening quicker and more passively.
I've come to realise is women have various attraction triggers and it's more complex than men.
- A tall man can trigger their attraction switch - which then can be built on
- A popular guy who is preselected can trigger their attraction switch (has happened to me several times)
- Dominance, humour, competence and confidence etc all can trigger it.

What I've come to realise is that men need a BUY-IN. So an average looking guy at average height needs to have excellence in SOME form that women value: showing competence at something they value fitness/sport/music/art or dominance/humour/popularity - whatever it is

Following your article on Tao of Steve I've focused on becoming excellent fitness/physique wise which has led to more attention from women: more stares, smiles,comments which is all positive. While working on fundamentals across the board.

Back to my original question.

I know these things are true. Even objectively I see women with men similar to themselves but less physically attractive.

Yet I'm struggling to overcome this part of me that's obsessed with thinking women's no.1 priority is this. All it takes is a face value comment from a woman saying they like tall guys, or that guy is easy on the eyes/amazing body. Yet I don't hear comments about that guy is so funny he turns me on. Or that guy is sexy (while also not referring to a handsome/tall/ripped guy).

How do I overcome this insecurity/cognitive dissonance?
How am I able to understand or FEEL what women feel at a gut level about attraction without PROJECTING my own feelings?

I really like the concept of talking about understanding female attraction at a gut level.

However, Jason H. brings up another point here, which I think is more important to address FIRST:

Namely, how people work to present an image of themselves as successful by playing up how awesome their dates and lovers are… and how if you aren’t careful you can get totally suckered by it!

Everybody does this… but girls do it more. Girls are the masters at it. Girls will tell you constantly how picky they are, how excellent their ex-boyfriends were, how refined their taste is. And the illusion will hold! … right up until you actually meet the guys these girls are going with (and say to yourself “Huh?!”).

So before we talk about understanding female attraction at an intuitive, gut level (which I still would like to talk about), FIRST let’s make sure we understand this equally important concept, that the way women describe their standards and the men in their lives and the way those men actually are tend to be two very different things.

Tactics Tuesdays: Thank You Dates (Using Gratitude)

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By: Chase Amante

thank you dateInstead of ask a girl out on a date, you can offer her one – as thanks. Frame your date as a sign of gratitude and change the frame on your dating.

What if there was a way to leverage the power of the social factor of reciprocity… and use it to actually get dates with more girls?

There is – we just need to use reciprocity the opposite way from how most men try using it with girls.

When your average man attempts to use reciprocity as a romantic tool, the way he does it is by attempting to ingratiate himself to women. His hope: if a woman feels grateful enough to him, that he has done so much for her and provided so much value to her life, she’ll finally agree to a date with him.

This is simple chasing of women, of course. It’s transparent; women see right through it; and studies show that women in general don’t feel too much need to comply more with men just because those men performed favors for them.

If we want to use reciprocity to get dates the seductive way, we can’t use the same (ineffective) approach to it normal men use.

We need to use it the seductive way.

How to Pick Up Girls Who Are on Vacation

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By: Chase Amante

how to pick up girls on vacationGirls on vacation can be some of the easiest girls to pick up. Of course, you must find them first… & know how to pick them up before they leave town!

It’s a little-discussed truth among cold approach practitioners: some of the easiest get-togethers you’ll get are girls you pick up on vacation.

Girls on vacation have a lot of things going for them as targets for your affections:

  • They crave memorable experiences and stimulation.

  • They know no one and are more open to new people.

  • They are present: alert, tuned-in, and out of ‘autopilot’.

  • Their schedules are typically wide open and available.

  • Often they arrived fantasizing about a tryst with a local.

  • They unworried about affects upon their reputations.

Compare this to a local girl who’s not on vacation: trapped in her routine, not seeking stimulation, much more closed to new acquaintances (she already has her local group of friends), non-present (running on autopilot), her day and week all planned out, fantasies pushed to the background, ever concerned about the reputation she maintains.

Picking up girls who are on vacation is basically switching your seductions over to easy mode. It’s why ‘pick up girls on vacation’ constitutes several of my recommendations in my guide to the top 7 ways to get laid and raise your notch count. There’s only one problem: how do you find those girls on vacation to pick up… and how to isolate them from the friends they’re vacationing with – then bed them before the vacation ends and they go home?

Wingman Guide, Pt. 2: 3 Potent Wingman Strategies

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By: Alek Rolstad

wingman strategiesGoing out with a wingman is good. What strategy should you employ while out though? There’s a lot more you can do than just “two guys approaching girls.”

Hey guys, welcome back. Last week, we discussed wingmanning and the basics of choosing a good wingman, which is critical. It can make or break your future interactions. We reviewed key rules to ensure smooth cooperation, which is equally critical whether you are a beginner or a pro; many underestimate this element.

Today, I’ll discuss strategies and give my take on wingmanning. I will start by debunking some misconceptions about winging by pointing out the flawed perspective that wingmanning is about you and a guy hitting on two women in the same group. Wingmanning can be this, but it is so much more. The classic view of wingmanning is the most complicated method to pull off and requires good overall pick up and seduction skills. I may sound slightly negative initially, especially if you are not at the level to pull off the “classic” wingmanning style. However, I will suggest different strategies that are easier to use but not necessarily less efficient, whether you are a pro or a beginner. These are especially convenient if you are a beginner or an intermediate player.

However, if the old school, hardcore style of wingmanning (“doubles”) is your thing, then similar to my previous post, this post is also for you since you will find helpful (and essential) information here. Worry not, I will soon have posts on doing doubles because I love it and have perfected it with my main wings.

When Women Behave Badly (& Act Immorally)

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By: Chase Amante

immoral womenSometimes girls just behave bad. From flaking on dates to stealing stuff or cheating on you… how best to respond to women committing immoral acts?

Commenting on my article about guys resenting women, Ano asked

Hey Chase,

like the article for perspective. Good stuff :)
The thing that gets to me and where I would be really interested in your take is when women actually act imorally, i.e. flaking 15 minutes before an agreed date or not turning up at all, cheating on you etc.
A perfectly Darwinian world doesn't respect the moral code of course, but of "good people" living in our society, you'd expect it. How is your view on when things like that happen, where the reason is the competition, but the women themselves still have responsibility morally?
Thanks so much

It’s an interesting question. Ano’s scenarios here involve a few different threads – morality, self-respect, boundaries. They also involve how you think about other people in general (both women and men), your levels of empathy, sympathy, and how accurate those senses are in you. Personal values on things like punctuality and sexual fidelity also play a big role.

Today, let’s talk about women behaving badly and doing immoral stuff (from being late to cheating on you), and how I recommend you think about such behaviors – and respond to them.