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Since my recent posts have been covering basic yet important elements of seduction, today I decided to share a really powerful, advanced technique. So this post is primarily for advanced seducers.
The technique I will talk about – that of sexual lines – will allow you to get women chasing you in clubs and bars in no time. Another aspect of it is that women will chase you sexually, allowing you to escalate to really dirty sex. This technique is advanced and requires you to have your basics in check and be able to comfortably get sexual with women.
But what if you are a beginner?
Well, I will also share a simplified version of the actual technique that should give somewhat similar results but that’s less risky and easier to pull off. The price you pay however is that the simplified version will have less of an impact.
Comments
Perfect
Haha, my man. Love these.
Hmm
This technique is akin to messaging 50 girls on a dating website all with the same sexually forward one liner, sitting back and waiting to see who takes the bait. I get doing that online. It saves time having to try and seduce girl by girl in an environment that does not allow you to highlight your sexy traits efficiently.
But in real life things are different. You have the ability to effectively seduce and utilise your full arsenal. To me this whole hitting and running thing just seems a bit amateurish. It's just a
giant screening tool - go up to a girl, drop her a sexy line, hope she digs your fundamentals, walk away, see what happens. Yes okay it can get you laid, but it's so mechanical. This method has no respect for the subtleties of seduction. It doesn't allow you to target a girl you like, and seduce her by first building comfort, escalating things, moving her, gaining investment and bringing her home.
If your going to go all in from from the off and tell a girl you want to suck her pussy, you are not seducing, you are hoping to hit the lack pot.
No good seducer will tell you that going in from with start with a super strongly worded sexually charged opener is the effective way to do things. Yes it can work, for sure. You can go up to one hundred girls and tell each one you want to fuck their mother, eventually one will be intrigued by this guy, start talking with him, and one thing will lead to another. But that is not seducing, and it is not what you should be teaching guys who are new.
Likewise to your idea that in order to sufficiently excite a girl you must be verbally conveying all the dirty things that you want to do to her. Sex frames are great, defeating the idea that sex is a big deal and conveying your opinion that society is stuck up and should just chill out about sex can be fantastic. But you don't need anything more other than a few chase frames at times to
excite a girl and escalate things sexually.
Great bedroom eyes with powerful contact, voice tones, touch, the right smile, moving her physically, gaining investment and disqualifying yourself as a boyfriend are all you need. You do not need to tell a girl mid conversation that you would love nothing more than to stick your dick in her soaking wet pussy. Again, it can work. but it's not as efficient as letting your non verbals do the talking and moving things forward physically.
You kill all the intrigue and go overboard with all your 'powerful lines' and no doubt leave you having to unnesaserily defend yourself at times. Stick to chase framing, powerful non verbals, investment and moving things forward. The exception is when a girl is obviously very open sexually and is flirting heavily with you and you know she will be receptive to sex chat, but otherwise why bother with something that can be so polarising when there is no actual need? I don't understand why you always recommend sexy chat.
Not to put words in Alek's
Not to put words in Alek's mouth, but I believe that he teaches it because he understands that female sexuality is sparked by the feeling of being desired.
Altnerate Approach
Anon,
I believe Alek is just providing an alternate approach to seducing women that works well for him. Maybe it's much easier for him to approach 50 women in a night with sexually charged phrases and get a lay than it is for him to set chase frames and inch things along. He may not care about 49 losses if he ends up with a girl that night.
Likewise, there are probably some members that probably enjoy this style, or maybe they struggle with setting up chase frames and sexual innuendos the way other members do. I think the point to take away is that he's just emphasizing a method that can work, and depending on the reader, it may or may not ring a bell with each individual's style.
For me, I prefer not to be explicit with sexual talk and actually follow the process that you laid out in your comment. That being said, I've also seen just about everything work, including what Alek has mentioned, and if some reader seems to really like that style, he may end up employing it and being much more successful with it than he was with the more "subtle" approach.
When it comes to seduction, it's just important to keep in mind that there are many different approaches to taking women home, and sometimes it's not always about what is the "best" method for getting them home, but it can also be about what is the "best method for YOU."
- Franco
The comment above is so on
The comment above is so on point.
I saw the article with some expectations in mind, then when I read the lines…wow.
They are just a little over board, there's no intrigue or innuendo, it's just straight to the point.
A challenge for Alek
The thing with this technique is, like I mentioned to another site writer on a previous post, that it works only AFTER there is a certain degree of mutual attraction. Plus it only works on night game. Try doing that on cold approach when you have 10 seconds to walk up to a girl and stop her from getting into a bus or train and it's a totally different scenario.
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I'm mereley a beginner and I've been reading Girls Chase for over a year to the point that I've understood one crucial point: "once there is attraction you pretty much have the girl". It's like those salesmen that go door to door pitching strangers are very much like cold approach seducers. Put those salesmen on a store where the clientele walks in already interested in buying and they will clean up easily.
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Let's say you've got your fundamentals tight, you pretty much memorized Chase´s teachings and you're out there doing cold approaches during the day. You don't have the advantage of bulding attraction through social circle nor the logistic advantages of approaching women in night venues, during those few seconds you don't have attraction already established to pull things off in your favor. What do you do?
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Just saying, once there's attraction everything seems easy once you read Chase's theory. I'd like to see Alek Rolstad stick only to day time cold approach for one month and see how often he can get laid.
Attraction
Chaz-
I'd keep in mind that not everything is going to work everywhere.
There's a lot of stuff that's well-suited for day game (like instant dates) that usually does not translate well to night game. Additionally, there's stuff well-suited to night game (like a lot of sexual framing, chase framing, sexual lines like what Alek is discussing here, etc.) that doesn't translate so well to day game. You can use much of this once you're further into a more intimate day game conversation, or actually on a date, but you won't be delivering these lines in the midst of a street stop or a club open the majority of the time either... and if you are going to use them as openers, either you're ballsy as hell or you're calibrated as hell, and either way you're using them to screen out 95% of women and leave only the 5% (or whatever the number is) who are feeling you and down. But that's why Alek noted this is advanced.
Keep in mind that attraction is merely your foot getting in the door - getting attraction and getting sex or a girlfriend are two different ball games. I sleep with women who are much more attracted to other men in a place than they are to me, or even have guys they're going on dates with that they'd probably like to sleep with or date much more than me. But the fact is, those guys don't handle their business, and I do, and that means that the greater degree of attraction they inspire in women is irrelevant, because I get the girl while they stand around wondering how come they didn't.
What Alek's discussing here is a tool for use predominantly when you have a girl who's attracted to you, but who simply isn't taking the bait - she might like you, but she's not letting you progress.
He's using blatant sexual lines to force a decision; she can't sit around and think, "Well, maybe I'll wait and see what this guy does," or, "Maybe I'll just trade numbers with this guy - he's kind of cute - and we'll see if maybe he can turn it into something later." He's putting his cards on the table and saying, "Here's what I've got to offer; I'm interested; let me know if you are," and walking away. If she follows, great, because now it's shifted out of neutral and well on its way to being in the bag; if she doesn't, he's free to meet someone else more inline with what he's looking for.
Chase
Re: Attraction
Chase:
Your point about attraction vs actually bedding women is very important.
I used to think I had to be the best looking or the most desirable of a woman's suitors. Oh how wrong I was. If you seduction is your game then the end point must be sex. After sex, as we know, the cards are in your favor.
So if sex is the end game, why is attraction without sex important? It shouldn't be, at least not to a seductive, sexual man. This is something women care more about. Women like going out and having guys drool over them. Their goal isn't to get guys home (they may even be in auto-rejection the whole night).
Women have many reasons, which I won't go into, about why they want to be attracted to. As for guys, it is important initially, but only if your end game is sex with a woman. What good is it to be a guy who women want who doesn't bed the women?
The guy who actually is having sex is the one who should feel good about what he'd doing, because he is successful. A while back, 50 Cent was rumored to have slept with a famous black celebrity. He denied it in an interview and said something along the lines of "having people think I slept with someone is as good as sleeping with them." I remember thinking, "No, no, no." 50 Cent falls into this category of guys who don't see the difference between being desired and actually having sex with the women who desire you.
Great point, Chase. I think you can do quite the article on this!
Yours,
Sterling
Question
Why should I believe this when it has never happened for me before?
Re: Question
Mickey-
I would wholeheartedly suggest you absolutely do not. Don't take a damn thing from this site on faith, and be skeptical about it all.
Instead, Real Empiricists Test.
Chase
This is why this site is not a cult
And this is why this website is one of the few sites in the web that I wouldn't be ashamed being caught looking through in public , and this site isn't cult-like. You don't brainwash anyone that your teachings are the path to enlightenment, you guys force everyone to test it out for themselves. I like the way you run your business/teachings Chase :)
RE: This is why this site is not a cult
Careful there looking at this stuff in public. As Chase has pointed out before, it's not sexy to women if they know you study this stuff. Also as I've noticed, guys tend to approach you more negatively if they know you're into this unless it's a close friend of yours. This may be a male ego thing and also some guys like to feel like other guys are creeps, pervs, etc. because it makes them feel less like they are.
Damn.. alright
I know this by experience too. My brother in law, who I didn't get along with, gossiped and soon enough everyone knew what I read/studied. Its embarrasing, and i live in a mid-size city, everyone knows everyone here. Thanks for pointing out bro
After a lifetime of disappointment...
Experience doesn't lie, does it?
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