A reader on the article about girls with boyfriends writes in
with a sentiment I’ve noticed popping up increasingly often on
GirlsChase.com:
“But what really saddens me is the feminist undertone that lurks all around this thinking that on the other side look like male dominance. And the question is: Why is it men that have to become perfect? Why is there no such a need for women? Leadership, selfish genes, everything I already know. But I want a higher standpoint. Why are men the only ones that have to step up, and not women?”
This is one that in fact I’ve answered repeatedly in the comments sections of various articles... but I realize not everyone reads those, they’re kind of hard to search / keep track of, and new people roll in and wonder the same things, especially if there isn’t a single place strictly for answering a particular question. So it’s time for it to get a dedicated article.
Why don’t women have to improve? Why don’t women have to step it up? How come they get a free pass... while men have all this pressure to “be perfect”?
It doesn’t seem very fair.
The fact is though, there is TONS of pressure on women to step it up and be perfect – including, indirectly, on this site.
However, this is a men’s site for men, and asking GC to write chastisingly-worded “You better shape up your act, ladies – or else!” articles for women misses the point – that we are here to instruct men who want to up their results, rather than to be just another shrill voice haranguing those who don’t want to “follow the rules” and tell them that they’d better get their acts in gear.
Comments
A good read
I cringe at myself when I get caught up in this gender mash sometimes... This serves as a good reminder why I rather tend to better myself, not blame the world.
And the “Mmm-hmm, you tell ‘em, Mister!” - that cracked me up good Chase.
Always glad to see non-pick up related articles from you - your writing has a certain flair that makes me enjoy them thoroughly.
L.
Good Comments
Hey Lanoa,
I agree it can really clutter your mind when you think about the genders wars. All the time spent thinking about it could be used for something else. Like you mentioned you could use it to become a better person. Anyway I enjoy your quote from Steven Hawking.
Take care,
Just Dave
You were right..
Hey chase you gotta see this
www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201110/romance-the-love-code
Interesting Read
Hey Mystery,
I found the article to be interesting but not that surprising after spending time reading GC and learning more about women. Anyway, it's a good link for guys who are still on the fence off about how women feel about relationships.
Just Dave
Research
Neat link, BM.
The freshest data on there, and one that's especially interesting to see to me, is that there's a difference in preference between men looking for something casual and men looking for something committed in terms of whether they prefer a rushed out "I love you!" or a more carefully planned and scrutinized "I love you" from a girl. Makes sense that that'd be the case, I suppose.
Chase
difficult endeavor
Yup, ive definitely been guilty of this. Sometimes it's just so fucking hard letting go of that bitterness and justice mindset that you've carried with you for so long. But what you said it's true: trying to tell women what to do is mostly a futile exercise. Changing your mindset about women is tantamount to changing your views on religion: It's very psychologically stressing. Nevertheless, I want to thank you for allowing us to see the light. I know you bust your ass writing these articles and you seem like you genuinely care about helping men become the strongest version of themselves. Thank you.
Healthier People
Hey Rad,
It is never easy to let go of those feelings you describe, and I applaud you for being honest about it. You're already on the path to becoming a better person. A lot of times we're just bitter about are pass failures. When we become better and create amazing successes the bitterness dies. We know how to act and handle ourselves better. We know how not to get fooled again. The real challenge is for men who don't want to get better and want life to hand them things. When we create our own destiny life becomes more certain and less about luck. These are just some of the many lessons Chase teaches. Thanks again for sharing.
Take care,
Just Dave
Re:Why I Don’t Tell Women to “Step It Up”
This one is an endlessly thought-provoking piece from your table,Chase. It's pure gold...but only for those who understand pure gold's worth.
Naturally,as humans,we are wired to preach and fight for the continuity of those ideas which fit perfectly into our experiences. It's all about survival and a worthless fight to establish our status over others.
If we consider it from the above context,then it becomes quite clear why different gender-based fighters take the stance they do: to establish their belief system and possibly perpetuate it for all eternity. Majority of them strongly hold on to the very sad idea that unless others accept their ideas,their hope for genuine happiness is forever dashed into oblivion. A very harmful mentality.
Let me quote one of Shakespear's; "There's nothing right or wrong,but thinking makes it so". This statement,when meticulously x-rayed with an open and unbiased mind,reveals the genius in it. I hope you think so too. In fact,right this moment I feel guilty of trying to sell this idea as the "right" one to you reading this. Lol. Be that as it may,the futility in endlessly trying to prove ourselves as right or wrong steals the shine away from our lives and robs us of the time we should instead have spent living and enjoying life while we live. *Damn,I'm starting to sound like some devout preacher*. Lol. Time to knock it off.
Finally,I strongly believe (My personal opinion of course) that we can never be truly happy until we ratchet up our emotional intelligence to some decent level. We may be smarter than aliens,but if we are not emotionally intelligent,our smartness amounts to balderdash,dross,zilch,nada,poppycock!
Interestingly,part of our being emotionally intelligent is in this,that we are flexible in our thinking and understand that people are different and are always going to have their differing opinions no matter the weather,year,age or civilization.
This world is not ours,we take it not with us after death.
Day by Day
Hey Moolar,
You comment reminds me of a song a heard growing up, "Is the glass half full or half empty it's basically your perspective quite simply. We're the same and we're not. You know what I'm saying? Listen! I'm not better than you I just think different." - Nujabes
Just Dave
What a slap to those time-wasters who keep blaming the world!
Wow Chase, this kind of articles are the reason why I can't help but respect you, A LOT!
By the way, after reading the part "...and is also super hot and cooks awesome meals and never wants to sleep with any man but you and you don’t have to do anything to get her and keep her except to..." I wondered what was coming! The moment I read "JUST BE YOURSELF", lol, you made my day! :D
Also, I guess of all the 630+ articles (is that correct?) in this site, this is the first time EVER that you used larger font in the article body in a sentence: "If she sucks, she just sucks. Don’t date her", which explains HOW MUCH IMPORTANT the "Don’t date her" part is!
Loved how you put the term 'mercilessly' in "...and then screen mercilessly for women who are themselves everything they can be for your partners."!
Hmm....'mercilessly', gotta keep that in mind!
- Kevin
Better Girlfriends
Hey Charm,
To build off of what you mentioned, what you screen hard you end up with better girlfriends. It comes from knowing what you're looking for in a woman. When she doesn't meet your criteria for a relationship, don't date her. When you constantly raise your expectations and standards for relationships, the quality increases. It keeps you for settling for the mediocre. The key is though to be realistic with your standards. Anyway just thought I share and expand on the information mentioned.
Take care,
Just Dave
Articles
Kevin-
Happy to hear it!
Larger font... hmm, not sure. Could be a first. I use it for bullet lists sometimes, but rarely (or maybe that's the first time) in-article other than bullets and headers. But that was something that needed some extra emphasis without making it all caps screaming.
Article-count wise, counting announcements (maybe 15 to 20 or so?) and unpublished articles (of which there are perhaps 5 or 6), we are 5 away from 900, and Colt's today will make that 4. Closing in on 1,000 articles on the site fast!
Chase
Very good read.
Very good read.
What about earning respect?
What about earning respect? The difference between "demanding" and earning respect is miles apart.
If someone demands respect, it equals resentment and disrespect.
If someone earns respect, it equals people just damn love you.
I always keep running into this one. How would I provide value and respect to people without being used/ under appreciated.
Please drop this topic in the article queue.
I'm sure it would help all those nice guys, including myself.
Noted!
Hey Troy,
I'll let Chase and the other author's know about your request. Also, hope you're feeling alright about the experience you add in the bad part of your town. I saw the comment and I've been meaning to take another look at it.
Take care,
Just Dave
Earning vs. Demanding Respect
Troy-
Interesting. Not sure if I read this comment before writing the "respect" article and that influenced the terminology I used or the direction I went with it, but if so, it was subliminal.
Anyway, I divided respect along the lines of "earning" and "demanding" there, actually framing both as necessary if you want solid respect. However, too little of one or the other can leave others using you as a doormat (too little demanding of respect) or resenting you / treating you like a fake (too little earning of it).
Here's the link if you haven't seen it yet:
How to Be Respected by Men and Women Alike
Chase
Sexy Dance
Hey Chase, there is one thing I would really like to clear my mind of and that is how to dance sexy. I did a little research on dancing and it seems women look at the neck, torso, and....the right knee? The left knee shows negative effect and the arms little to no effect on the dance. I looked at a scientific "good dance" and yea he twists the parts and takes space and shows a variety of different dances but, is that really "sexy" or is it just entertaining? I mean the dance looks ridiculous to the point where I don't think women find it sexy but just entertaining to watch so they gave it high ratings.
Article Links
Hey Anon,
I'm not sure if you've already scene these articles but I'm posting them here. Let me know if this is what you had in mine. If not I can let Chase and the other authors know about your request.
Dancing and Turning Her On
Dance Floor Seduction
Just Dave
Sexy Dance Moveset
Well, I was more interested in like a "how to" sexy dance in literally just body parts and movements but although these articles are magnificent articles, they not quiiiiiiiiiiite what I'm looking for. But I guess its okay, it's nothing to get worked up about.
Noted!
Hey Anon,
No worries, I'll let Chase and the other authors know about this request. A lot of guys maybe wondering the same type of question. I'll make sure the writers staff is aware of your question.
Take care,
Just Dave
Thank you
Thank you for making this site and sharing with us. I found it around christmas and have been slowly digesting it since then.
"You’re either going to be excited by this material (because you suspected what the mainstream fed you didn’t work, and now you’ve got a method at your fingertips that does)."
That was me. I really had no clue what I was looking for(or that i was looking) until I found this and started to make things work. My instincts had always been right, but I didn't trust them because I was being told something else by everyone around(except for the bitter and cynical people and their addiction to their pain/hate/fear rendered their advice a different trap in itself).
These days I continually try to test out the advice you have given here and find that some things i can do, some I can't and some are of no interest to me(at least now). When I am tired I still revert to my old patterns of behavior, but after a good nights sleep I reflect on what happened and try again.
So thank you for verbalizing and sharing these tools with us. I suspect that if it wasn't for this I would eventually have become a bitter man(the dissonance was really tearing at me) instead of falling more and more in love with life and the beauty of this world.
P.Paz
That's Awesome
Hey Paz,
Glad to hear that you found GC! You have a very positive outlook on your growing experiences for seduction. I can see that you are well on your way to having a bright future.
Take care,
Just Dace
Great
There are always various problems in my life that I need to get solved - that's why I keep coming back here! I'm sure I'll make it to awesomeness soon.
Also, I totally got the "PAIN" tattoo reference from your ebook - very funny.
The M
Constant Journey
Hey M,
Growth and development is a never understanding process. It requires patience and always finding new challenges. Then the creative starts over again as you develop new ways to overcome those challenges. Anyway, I know you will be successful if you keep on your path.
Stay focused,
Just Dave
P.A.I.N.
M-
I am happy to keep reeling you back in.
As for the reference - a little inside joke here and there never hurt anybody ;)
Chase
Women feel this too...
...I can assure you: We have to work on ourselves, lazy men just are the way they are.
Of course Chase is right, like he often is): all we can do, is to work on ourselves so we can attract better partners.
I belong to the small female minority, btw, who is *very* disappoined that you won't write a blog post intended primarily for women.
XOXO Atra
when she says what :)
i have noticed this a lot recently when I am making strong eye cotnact and the tension is getting real heated and heavy she will try to break it by saying what? at that point i dont know how to respond to that I typically just smile and say "nothing" and i feel like im messing up here. i have never thought of myself as real lovey dovey and it is hard for me to bust out lines like "You are the most beautiful girl i have ever laid eyes on" but there has to be a better response to "what"
I have been reading and Learnin from you for a while now and starting to learn to lead women in interactions,i am curious how to respond to this. a reply would be amazing thanks in advance.
Too Much Tension
Josua-
Keep in mind that when you're staring at her hard like that, you're communicating that you have some strong intention. Best if you can follow through by leading her to the next stage of the interaction - take her hand and lead her ("Come, let me show you this"), tell her to come sit closer and stop being so far away, etc. Telling her "nothing" when she wants to know is a big disappointment - give her something fun and exciting instead!
Chase
High-school
Hey Chase,
I've been reading your blog for quite some time now, maybe a year, and it has taught me quite a lot. Not only in terms of seduction and pick-up advice, I've taken a few major and minor life philosophies from you and your team. Sorry, not returning them - sue me.
Throughout all this time a question has popped numerous times in me, but I've never even come close to getting an answer for it - how much of this applies to high-school students. I can remember reading somewhere sometime that doing cold approaches at this age could be harmful for the future, but I really want to read your opinion on it. Another aspect of the question is what's going on in girls' heads at this age, because I feel like the things I am reading here and the things I am experiencing have little to nothing in common. Now, I know that you haven't been to high school in a while, but any insights from you or another writer would be appreciated.
Another question, much simpler - what do you think of the guys from Real Social Dynamics (http://www.rsdnation.com) and of Black Dragon? (http://www.blackdragonblog.com)
Thank you in advance!
Best regards,
Bob
High School
Bob-
I couldn't tell you personally how much of the material on GC applies to high school, though I will say that what some of our discussion forum members in high school say is that it all applies, though it's better to treat high school as one big social circle and do any cold approaching you'll do outside of school on the streets or in the malls or on the beach. One of our more prolific members on the boards, Richard (Zphix), started in high school, doing a lot of approaching in shopping malls.
I don't know a great deal about the guys from RSD, although Tyler/Owen does a lot of inspirational videos on YouTube and has a pretty good-sized following there. From what I've seen of them, he's definitely got his on-camera presence down pat.
Black Dragon and I used to post back on Fast Seduction (the old, massive PUA board - same one Tyler from RSD got his start on; the board's closed down now) together in my pre-GC days. He's a respectable guy with a nose for online game and used to post some a bunch of online-to-bed lay reports. He runs SedFast now, which was where some of the older guys from Fast Seduction who were still hanging around migrated to after the original board shut down: http://pua-zone.com/. I also helped him out with his contest a little earlier this year: http://www.girlschase.com/content/want-win-200-submit-your-online-dating...
Chase
elite fathers
Hey Dave, I think it would be interesting to have an article on being elite fathers who raise successful children. I read in a comment that chase has been studying child rearing for a long time and that would be an interesting read. I am a young single father about to graduate college so I will definitely appreciate that.
Noted!
Hey Bolt,
Sounds good, I'll let Chase and the other authors know about your request.
Just Dave
Hey Chase. It is me Robert,
Hey Chase.
It is me Robert, from whom you quoted the text in the beginning from. A very intriquing post as well, with the answer I can really relate to. THANK YOU, you really are a different kind of person. You actually did what I asked and pondered it and wrote an answer that shows and persuades one to your side.
It is truly mentally refreshing to hear the truth: there is no real right or wrong, just what you choose is right and wrong for you. One who is a terrorist to one faction, is a hero to another. An universal truth. What you said as well about that this site is geared for men who wish to seek knowledge in the art of dealing with women, is very interesting. Basically it is that you choose your side, devote yourself and stick to it? Am I correct?
But isn't this just a little bit contradictory to your post of multiple standpoints? If you understand someone, you are inclined to believe in their cause as well. Or do you mean that one does need to understand other points of view to better his/hers own performance? I can really see a lot viewpoints, which sometimes renders me incapable of actually helping myself against them. How can I get over this? Maybe the upbringing I received when I was young was so morally strong, that it just renders me incapable to just think of my and my side's wellbeing. A very moral problem, which I know find interesting.
Yours truly
Robert
P:S: You are a clever guy, I respect that a lot
Meaningful Causes
Hey Robert,
While it may seem contradictory at first, you can do whatever you want with your life. The idea is to not get caught up in a pointless war. In the examples of the gender wars from different eras, the gender war is still being fought. It will be fought until the end of time. This is what is meant by a wasteful cause. Fighting for something that in the end will not change. Now dedicating your life to understanding people and improving yourself is meaningful. You don't have to believe in everyone's cause, but attempt to understand their viewpoints. Only you can decide what is the life you want to live. What you said at the end would make another great article. One about pertaining to breaking away from social programming. Along with thinking for yourself despite your upbringing.
Great comment,
Just Dave
Understanding vs. Choosing
Robert-
Bear in mind, all things must have purposes. Without these, they just drift.
So, this site has a purpose, and that purpose is arming guys with tools to do the things that they want to do with girls, life, and people in general. I or the other writers here can certainly understand various guys' causes, but if we make this a site that just talks about everything people want us to talk about, the site loses focus and becomes an aimless, undirected miasma of noise.
e.g., we get requests to write instructional articles about business; instructional articles about interviewing and getting jobs; instructional articles about how to write; some women want articles about how to get guys, while other ones want articles about how lesbian women can seduce other women; some guys want us to yell at women to quit being feminists, while other guys want us to leave this whole immoral seduction act behind and start reinforcing traditional family values because we of course know that that's what's right for people and society.
I'd refer you to Aesop's "The miller, his son, and his donkey" tale:
You may understand all sides. However, you can only devote your time effectively to a small number of them. I find that instructing men on how to take action to improve their lives and the lives around them is a better fit for me and believe it creates more of a positive, lasting impact on the world than me signing up to be yet another gender warrior campaigning for social justice. That doesn't mean I don't understand the gender warriors (on either side) and what they want to accomplish; however, like the miller and his donkey, if you keep doing everything each passing person asks you to do, you find yourself in the position of that miller: please all, and you will please none.
I won't pick a side in the gender war because I think it's not a good use of my time - I'd rather look into the meta-history of society and make prescriptions about what likely works best on a social level and what a society can do if it wants to achieve that than bitch and moan at women today for not doing what they "should" be doing - but I will pick between gender warring and writing a site like GC.
At some point, every man makes his bed, and he has to decide what goes in it because it can only contain so much.
Chase
Hi Chase, I don't if this
Hi Chase, I don't if this will make you angry because you said you don't like to advise women, but I feel I might fall into the boring nice girl with low partner count but I don't want to lose a man I have in a relationship. I am sure you have been in relationships with girls with higher partner counts, who as you say make men feel loved, desired and sexy. What do they do differently from women who are their opposites, and how can I make men feel as those with girls with higher partner counts do? I want to improve just as much as the men on this site do, please help me.
Thnxs :)
Female follower
You wouldn't be the first female to ask for advice on this website! We've actually had a few jump onto the discussion boards and ask for advice.
There was a similar post to yours recently with some good replies (including my own), so if you want to check it out, here's the link:
http://www.girlschase.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5068
- Franco
Upping Intrigue for Men
Butterfly-
In addition to the link Franco shared, I'd say that many of the things that work to make men more alluring to women make women more alluring to men.
Studying women in film who are considered "sexy" and emulating their mannerisms, facial expressions, walks, voices, etc. is a great start. Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Lawrence both come to mind. There are plenty of women in Hollywood who are more classically good-looking than they are and are perfectly capable actresses, yet command nowhere near their celebrity (nor asking price for films), simply because these women have a level of charm and charisma they've worked very hard to develop that other actresses do not.
Sprezzatura, the Law of Least Effort, and being cool apply every bit as much to women as they do to men. Study the most sensual, elegant women, and you will notice that they virtually float across a room with poise, deliberateness of motion, and slowness; call an elegant woman's name, and watch how gradually she turns her head and eyes to meet you. Focusing on fundamentals is a big part of allure.
Sexual tension is another one that's very important for women; the more a woman can communicate that she is very sexually confident, the more powerful, unique, and exotic she seems to men. You won't want to dabble too much in sexual humor (a little light innuendo is okay, but usually best saved for men who clearly want to engage you in it themselves), but using nonverbals like leaning in with a hint of a sexy smile are all great. This post is a good guide to this, as it's all sexy nonverbal stuff I picked up first and foremost from very sensual women I've known: "Sexy Body Language for Men (Learned from Hot Girls)."
If you can get this stuff down, you can have a commanding, powerful, but still very feminine and sensual, presence, even if you're at 2 lovers instead of 25.
Chase
Hi Butterfly Tat, Go to this
Hi Butterfly Tat,
Go to this website
thefemininewoman.com
Everything you want to know and then some is right there. Guys will be lining up to marry you.
Your welcome ;)
prostitutes
I find it funny that no one in the seduction community including this site ever talks about prostitutes like its some form of doping or something. I would love to see an article on this as i know of guys who are prolific with girls and frequent brothels
Re: prostitutes
Boyo-
I've considered doing an article on this sometime soon. We get questions on it every now and again - should I sleep with prostitutes? Should I lose my virginity to one? etc.
I know a number of guys who are pretty prolific without paying who love using hookers as well, though there is sort of a slippery slope dynamic - even if you're great at picking up, once you get used to the ease of paying for it it seems like it's pretty hard for most guys (assuming they're well off enough to afford it) to get themselves back into gear doing much pickup. But I have this one marked down for a more in-depth exploration in an article.
Chase
Same night sex
Hey Chase, I think you should make an article on having sex with girls while you're at the club or bar. Like how do you warm them up enough to get them to a location to sleep with them that night. Where I go now, I have people who stand out side and guard the bathrooms, so I can't pull it off.
What if you're pulling night time street game and want same night sex? How do you pull that girl?
I feel you should show us how to get a girl to agree with us to come to the bathroom or a car or whatever to have sex. How do I bring girls into the bathroom if their are bouncers by them and inside the bathrooms their are those doorman that give you soap and offer mints. How do I get a girl into the bathroom like that? Thanks
Article Links
Hey Wolf,
Check out the following articles:
Unusual Places
Sex in Public
Let me know if these articles help,
Just Dave
How the girls will step it up ...
I've had a few tonight and felt compelled to throw my 2 cents in.
You can't TELL a girl to step it up and expect a long lasting response. She'll resent you eventually for asking her to be something she's not feeling.
A girl WILL step it up and keep it up in response to your own awesomeness. She'll do it on her own volition because she feels you're worth the extra effort.
Valid
Hey Anon,
I do like your response and appreciate your two cents. It definitely shows and clarifies that women will do things for men that matter to them. Thanks for sharing your life experiences to help other readers.
Just Dave
Advise Sites for Girls
I just had an idea, why not for the small minority of the women readers on this site who actually want to improve to be directed on other sites made specifically and effectively for them?
Re: Advise Sites for Girls
Anon-
If I knew any good ones, I'd pass 'em along. The only women-oriented advice sites I know of are the following:
... although these sites are more magazines / digests than anything else, so you might have to do some sifting for the advice. I believe Cosmo focuses a lot more on tactics, though haven't read it. Good chance you're already familiar with many / all of these, however.
There are the books like The Rules and Why Men Marry Bitches, though I couldn't say how good these are(?) as I haven't read them myself.
There are some seduction-like sites for women as well. I know David DeAngelo's (Double Your Dating) company for women is one of the biggest - that's Catch Him and Keep Him. Not sure what the others are off the top of my head, but there are some out there. Not sure how many of them publish articles though rather than just go for straight advertising + product sales.
Chase
This is the manifesto for the
This is the manifesto for the "I don't care what women think I just want to get laid" school of thought. It's low-level thinking. Cynical detachment is certainly the path of least resistance. It's a French mentality: as long as I get my rocks off and drink my bottle of wine or three after dinner, what do I care if Paris is overrun by the Prussian Army.
It's easy, yes, but it's ultimately not instructive for anyone. No, you can't change anyone, but it's a bit ironic that you make a living giving advice to men about women but won't deign to do the same for women. Why, then, should any man heed your words if you know so little about women?
Frankly, my entire dating life hinges on the very notion of women needing to step it up. Every girl I've ever passed on hasn't measured up in some regard. I judge women just as harshly as they judge me. Honestly, if you're not in the habit of making value judgments on women's behavior, that tells me you have low status with women and you take what you can get.
Manifesto?
Marcus-
Did you finish reading the article? Your last paragraph seems to suggest 'no.' Do a Ctrl+F and search for "So Women Don’t Have to Do Anything."
As for understanding how women think, I'd advise you to read more on this site. This site is all ABOUT what women think... that is its soul. I'm confused how you concluded that not telling women to step it up = not understanding how women think. This is akin to stating that failing to criticize how the other team plays means you don't understand how the other team plays.
The great sports coaches of history, who scrutinize the other team's play style and how it thinks and what it tries to do without getting on the microphone before the game to criticize how the opponent plays the game, would beg to differ with you. As would the great military generals of history. As would any man of much note. The fool criticizes. The wise man studies and adjusts.
As for not caring whether Paris is overrun by the Prussian army, I assume you are pinning the blame for the West's apparent decay on the behavior of women, and that I might possibly avert that decay by taking up arms against them (verbally, politically). I find the subject of decline interesting, but fighting individuals on their beliefs is a losing war, because individuals respond to fit their environments. If you want to change men's and women's behavior in the West, you need to focus on changing their environment, which includes large amounts of social welfare, wealth, and prolonged peace. Remove the welfare, take away the wealth, and plunge the West into protracted war on its homefront (and not abroad) and you will see a shift. Scolding women, however, will accomplish every bit as much as scolding naughty teenagers to change their ways does. That is, not much. Change the environments of those teens, however, and you change their behavior. So too with the men and women of the West, or anywhere else in the world, for that matter.
Chase
The Effects of Peace
This is very interesting Chase. What's the relation between prolonged peace and the prevalence male/female behaviors the OP finds undesirable?
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