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Note from Chase: this is our second article from John Turner, a member of our discussion forum. John’s first article was about “The Seduction Triangle”; in this article, he discusses the differences between men who approach doing better with women from a more broken perspective vs. men who approach it from a healthier one. Here’s John.
In recent years, it seems that the “PUA” lifestyle has gotten more and more attention in the media, and from what I’ve seen, it has been mostly negative.
This can seem confusing to beginners:
If learning pick up is going to make me a more attractive man and a better lover / boyfriend / husband, then shouldn’t girls encourage guys to learn this, and not be disgusted and irritated when the subject of pick up comes up?
Well, yes and no.
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Wow, not bad!
That was pretty good.
A well constructed analogy between the two. Good job!
PUA has been hot on the media. Everyone knows about this. Even girls know about push and pull. Girls will set red flags for this and be on their guard (as if they don't want to be swept) and even call guys out on it; guys will all practice PUA and no AFC will ever exist.
Competition becomes fierce as ever (or dumb and give all bad rep as ever since girls get smarter too). It gets salience and loses its effects (game over for everyone).
It's sort of a discouraging cluster mess and makes me wonder if it'll affect us.
This article is really encouraging in that aspect.
But the red flags and girls saying, "Was that a pick up line?" Or "You're trying to be mysterious on purpose to intrigue me". Just really kills the fun. Luckily it's not all girls, but once in awhile...always gets me stunned like a deer in headlights.
Yours,
Lawliet
I wholeheartedly agree with
I wholeheartedly agree with your view on this John, though I think - from my own experience - that most guys have to go through the PUA method to become seducers, that's at least how I myself transitioned. I personally went through a phase (about 8 months, quite short really) when I decided to up my game and become better with women. During this I went to clubs quite often and picked up a girl more often than not. The thing is, I was doing this by being intentionally mysterious, edgy and - again, intentionally - an asshole.
To be honest, although I found this empowering and quite often amusing, I also felt it draining my spirit as a person, it made me selfish, uncaring and numb. About 10 months ago I met a girl that I genuinely liked, and maybe it was just nature taking over, but I think I "picked her up" in a much more seductive way instead of PUA way, she said later that I was "mysterious", though I wasn't really trying to be (I was in fact just pretty tired..). I think because I've been through the PUA phase, that all of these traits just naturally developed as I became more natural, more discreet and more "real".
I'm still with the girl, we're happily co-habitating. Maybe we'll drift apart later and I'll go back to practicing pickup for fun and to "get my game" back. But right now, I'm honestly finding building a strong relationship more interesting and fullfilling than "gaming girls" ever was.
Just my thoughts!
How to handle not spending when you're with girls
Hello GC,
I was wondering if one of you experienced seducers could write on how to navigate your way socially and avoid spending when with hot girls. In my university (or maybe its generally a cultural thing where I come from or its because university girls are young), girls expect guys to spend on them on dates and other situations. Even female friends. Of course there some girls that do it too much and obviously maybe as a test, yet there are some that just see it as a norm. It would be cool if an article could be written on this especially for those who are not in the best of financial situations.
Paying for dates
Chase has actually already written a post about spending money on girls, you can read it here http://www.girlschase.com/content/should-you-pay-date
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Thanks Chase
Thank you Chase. And please excuse my using an inappropriate platform; just wanted to reach you. I will follow-up with Genaro later today.
Great read!
This is precisely why my seduction strategy currently revolves around having uber-polished fundamentals, coupled with a devil-may-care attitude. I love just sitting alone in a bar with hot girls, dressed like a boss and working silently on my phone. I let them approach me (which usually happens), and that way no one can accuse me of pick-up. :)
It's also a huge swell of confidence when a cute girl approaches YOU. It sets the chase frame in your favor right off the bat—then you just keep it that way. Remember, your mission in life should always come before women and sex. Women love that—you will be a happier man with that mentality too.
-M
RE: Mischief
When you're alone and on your phone, what exactly do you do on your phone? I like the idea of picking up in a bar by myself. But what do you do to look busy on your phone?
And what do you say you're doing there when a woman approaches you? I assume it would look odd if you were went dressed up to a bar, by yourself, just to scour your phone.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe, Usually I am
Joe,
Usually I am reading/answering messages with potential/current clients. Since it is work that I'm very passionate about, I can get pretty deep in thought. I've never been asked what I'm doing: usually they just see me typing a lot, and I think it's pretty self-explanatory. I've found the sight of a man on a mission is highly attractive to women, especially if he also has passive fundamentals on lock. You just don't want to make yourself completely unattainable—it is a bit of a balance to work out. Basically, I am intentionally hiding my lack of social acumen and "nice guy" behavior by keeping verbal game to a minimum.
Not to mention, it is also a lot more fun to get work done in a social environment where I can meet girls on the side, knowing that my engagement in work actually boosts my attractiveness and simultaneously lowers my neediness—an all around win.
-M
Thanks for the reply. Also,
Thanks for the reply. Also, when going out by yourself, you definitely give off more of a mysterious vibe.
Cheers,
Joe
I dont like this article. It
I dont like this article. It makes broad statements about how the PUA is etc.. This doesnt make sense because there are a lot of different people and motivations involved.
PUA in the end is a search word for google to find dating advice that isnt geared to sound politically correct.
Without ever meeting a self proclaimed PUA in person I have gained a lot of valuable concepts from PUA sites. There are a lot of pretty smart people involved who think outside the box.
Once you have seen how happy girls become when you ad a bit of PUA to your former niceguy, you dont want to go back.
I view girls chase as part of the PUA movement. Just a very professionel site with very positive attitude towerds people and life. Sadly this article is not so positive.
Its a lame filler feel good article, in which the auther basicly trys to act politically correct by throwing others under the bus who have contributed a lot to how we here do see the world right now.
Anon, Thanks for the
Anon,
Thanks for the feedback. I really want to make sure no one gets too caught up in my use of terminology. My concern is that some people may read the title,
skim the article quickly and misinterpret the point I was trying to make.
By no means am I trying to put down PUA's. I could have called the article "do you want to be PUA type A or PUA type B?" Though I think you'll agree it doesn't really have the same ring to it.
Even if you don't agree with everything in here, I hope you can still take away at least one or two points away from it. It was not my intention to come off
as self righteous and put down PUA's. On the contrary. There is plenty of great PUA material out there and I don't want you to think I disagree with it. This article simply offers a strategy to approach pickup with a more positive mindset.
Thanks to all for the responses.
-John Turner
Whoa. Could've done without
Whoa. Could've done without the homo-erotic pic of dude in his underpants at the end.
Otherwise good article.
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