Women in the West Now Require More to Arouse

Generally when I see a girl putting up less ASDs, I simply get a little more forward, like when we stand up I check out her legs blatantly and go, "Damn girl!" then look lustfully in her eyes, that usually turns them on. I also amp up the compliance and leadership. And if they're responsive to all that, I just invite home to play some pool (which I bet I'd totally kick their ass at it!) That's my MO anyway.

Well described Alek. The break down for Scandinavian women versus Croatia girls allowed me realise how vast your skillset is. Initially I was alarmed that you were often too advanced to even bother reading. Several topics you write about never seemed to hold water since they appeared, to me, as from a totally sexually liberated angle and for only girls of that sort.

With this contrast and thanks to your examples, I see now that I've not faced the highly sexually liberated girls yet.. Which means your tips on innuendo, framing would be useful in my environment. I guess it's like thinking your articles were from a stage, you never came up from underground; and now discovering you've been actually giving tips FOR the underground this whole time.

Alek,

I often hear how European women are much more open minded towards going interracial and being approached by "ethnic" guys (Arabs, Asians, etc.) compared to their North American counterparts. I've had ethnic friends who have told me how Euro girls, especially Northern Euro girls, are much more receptive to them compared to American women and Canadian women. Going from my own experience, I don't know if I have selection bias on my part, but I have seen men of various backgrounds with beautiful Euro blondes but it does seem like blondes who are more American tend to be a lot less inclusive with their preferences.

Yet on the flip side I have also heard that recently due to the "refugee" crisis, women in countries like Sweden and Germany immediately run the other way the second they see any guy that vaguely resembles an Arab approaching them simply due to how strong a lot of the refugees come on to women.

What have you noticed about this?

"Perhaps this explains why most Girls Chase writers and other “naturals” who we see as “exemplary” have over a decade of experience with women. These are the guys who are now able to teach others and really know what they’re doing. Naturals in particular become so after typically being well socialized with women at young ages; most naturals I’ve met had sisters or female friends they were able to socialize and play with as early as grade school, or they lost their virginity in their early teens. By the time they’re in their late teens or early twenties, they know womankind far better than the guys who spent their childhoods playing Halo or StarCraft with their male friends every night."

Not true at all: it doesn’t matter at what age naturals have been with woman. Say a natural has been with 20 women in his life. A non-natural could easily get with 21 women in a short time and surpass the natural. Personally, I was the greatest beta male in the world, to the point I thought I would never get a woman. But now, after a year of mostly dating woman (a lot of deliberate practice); and years of studying game and psychology, the greatest alphas I know look like amateurs next to me. The thing is that they were confident about themselves while I had a point to prove, so I worked harder than them.

The part about naturals being better with woman than guys who spent their childhoods playing videogames is false as well. These guys could become professional video game players and become richer and better with some types of women than the naturals. Chase hinted to that in his article about how many attraction factors there are: naturals are better in regards to game; being a natural does not mean that you are better looking or have a better lifestyle that a non-natural. And looks and lifestyle matter as well! There is a point where improving your game further won’t do much for you, and you must improve in other areas to grow. This is where the guy who spent his time studying or doing other things to improve himself succeeds. The non-natural millionaire and the poor natural are about the same level with women. The poor natural won’t do better with women because many factors matter.

You mentioned that you dated in Croatia when you were younger. I'm 20 and also from Croatia. I still think it is a bit taboo about hookup culture. Or do you think it has now become closer to West culture. I think maybe here would be better date compression for me if I am a begginer?

Notice it too. Started seeing an older lady recently who’s hot and says I turn her on so much, where I was just doing next to nothing for younger women. I’m used to the pace a bit more than she was too being in an LTR for like 8 years. But I would say too I thought about your open minded sex talk routine and it feels to me as a 28 year old too heavy handed for women my peer group age. My roommate is a natural and still does very well with women tho. Like you say. Slight move of the needle. Competitive markets are faster pace and tougher but also come with their own positives. Seems to be if you have it down for women they’re more open like you say, but the bar is higher for what it takes also like what you say. Would you call this it making status more important and enacting something closer to hypergamy irl? Sexual liberation essentially increasing efficiency of sexual access.